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Pavarotti masterclass 004



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Pavarotti masterclass 004


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HAH, Well it's well ... ( 5 months ago by Yoni89)
HAH, Well it's well known that the big P couldn't read music (at least not for the longest time, not sure if he ever learned.) He had a nice voice and good technique- he was no musical genius. If you want musicality I'd go for Kraus, Del Monaco, etc.. Not The big p.
Absolutely right! ( 5 months ago by lacaf1)
Absolutely right!
Finally someone ... ( 5 months ago by Yoni89)
Finally someone admits to my rightness. :D
Brian Schexnayder ... ( 5 months ago by Agorante)
Brian Schexnayder sang 207 performances at the Met. Pavarotti sang 378.
Both studied their roles presumably with the same assistant conductors and coaches like Warren Jones.
Star tenors can be bad musicians. Second tier baritones virtually never have musical flaws - the competition is just too severe.
Pavarotti was more likely to have benefited from coaching by Schexnayder, rather than the other way around.
wow, i was not ... ( 5 months ago by operagirl529)
wow, i was not expecting his english to be that good.
i really like the singer too.
I just love all the ... ( 5 months ago by 2800Hertz)
I just love all the schmuckperts who bash Pavarotti for his "musicianship". Go pound sand!
Ever hear him sing? Stuffy, elitist opera-snobs!
What matters is that he sang like he did IN SPITE OF this "shortcoming".
I really hope they don't call themselves "teachers of singing".
what year what this? ( 4 months ago by zevasthian)
what year what this?
I think its pretty ... ( 2 months ago by jenni4claire)
I think its pretty funny that they have found some way to feel superior to Pavarotti, not by singing better Abut by rubbishing him for his 'musicality'. as others rubbish his poor acting abilities, or his size.
His many limitations never detracted from his singing, which is what he is admired, even worshipped, for. Even his most ardent fans would not suggest he was perfect in ALL things.
I don't understand ... ( 1 month ago by castorp1981)
I don't understand people who say that Pavarotti's musicianship was inferior. He is one of the best tenors of all time and he probably did around ten roles the best of all tenors or at least he was not surpassed by any other tenor (and this is an important number of roles). It is true he could not read any music but Caruso had that kind of ''deficit'' as well. Ricardo Mutti called Pavarotti ''the point of reference, like Callas and Tebaldi'' and I believe this point of view says it all.
The statements ... ( 1 month ago by castorp1981)
The statements about Pavarotti's lack of musicianship and artistic intelligence are probably part of the ''vanity fair'' that envelops every extraordinary person in order to find some flaws and make this person more ordinary in the eyes of human vane.
Maybe it is true ... ( 1 month ago by castorp1981)
Maybe it is true what lacaf1 says about ''Master class in Modena 1991''. But this not an argument about Pavarotti's general lack of musicianship. I am a student of philosophy and there is a similar story about Heidegger who once attended a symposium on Nietzsche. He quoted Nietzsche but it was obvious for anyone in the audience that the quotation was completely wrong. In other words, here we have a great tenor and a great philosopher making an impressive flaw. So what ?
Maybe it is true ... ( 1 month ago by castorp1981)
Maybe it is true what lacaf1 says about ''Master class in Modena 1991''. But this not an argument about Pavarotti's general lack of musicianship. I am a student of philosophy and there is a similar story about Heidegger who once attended a symposium about Nietzsche. He quoted Nietzsche but it was obvious for anyone in the audience that the quotation was completely wrong. In other words, here we have a great tenor and a great philosopher making an impressive flaw. So what ?
Muti was refering ... ( 1 month ago by susejf)
Muti was refering to his technic,and that was flawless.The fact remains that he learned evrything by memory,has no musical culture and no culture in general.Great singer but quite ignorant.
Not part of the " ... ( 1 month ago by susejf)
Not part of the "Vanity Fair"but a fact that anyone that worked with him or attended his"masterclasses"witnessed.This does not diminishes his great talent as a singer.
Well that is taking ... ( 1 month ago by susejf)
Well that is taking it too lightly...one thing is to make a wrong quote another is to insist on a mistake and keep doing it.
And what are you a ... ( 1 month ago by susejf)
And what are you a "teacher of opinion"?Being a great singer does not mean that you are a superior cultured human being,on the contrary most singers are very poor culturally.
I don't find it ... ( 1 month ago by castorp1981)
I don't find it very convincing to state that a great artist lacks musicianship and Pavarotti was a great artist whether someone likes it or not. At least the great majority of his audience believes that. The purpose of every art is to send a message in an adequate way and if we can judge it by the quantity of the audience Pavarotti was the most convincing of all tenors in sending that kind of message. In other words he knew how to send a message and to do that you have to be an artist.
You are only ... ( 1 month ago by castorp1981)
You are only guessing about the true meaning of Mutti's words on Pavarotti. Your interpretation is subjective and pretentious. ''The point of reference'' means that one is a paradigmatic role model for everyone to come. Are you suggesting that Mutti is talking about Callas' and Tebaldi's technic as well because they are in the same line as Pavarotti ? I don think so. He is talking about the general artistic impact of three great artists.
I don't find it ... ( 1 month ago by castorp1981)
I don't find it very convincing to state that a great artist lacks musicianship and Pavarotti was a great artist whether someone likes it or not. At least the great majority of his audience believes that. The purpose of every art is to send a message in an adequate way and if we can judge it by the quantity of the audience Pavarotti was the most convincing of all tenors in sending that kind of message. In other words he knew how to send a message and to do that you have to be an artist.
You are only ... ( 1 month ago by castorp1981)
You are only guessing about the true meaning of Mutti's words on Pavarotti. Your interpretation is subjective and pretentious. ''The point of reference'' means that one is a paradigmatic role model for everyone to come. Are you suggesting that Mutti is talking about Callas' and Tebaldi's technic as well because they are in the same line as Pavarotti ? I don think so. He is talking about the general artistic impact of three great artists.
And what is ... ( 1 month ago by castorp1981)
And what is actually your point of view on someone being an artist or cultured person with musicianship ? And who is the ultimate criterion for these categories ? The critics ? The audience ?
And what is ... ( 1 month ago by castorp1981)
And what is actually your point of view on someone being an artist or cultured person with musicianship ? And who is the ultimate criterion for these categories ? The critics ? The audience ?
good old Pav! What ... ( 1 month ago by flaze3)
good old Pav! What a lej
Di Provenza il mar, ... ( 6 days ago by discoversounds)
Di Provenza il mar, Germont's aria from La Traviata.



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