Rev. Tom Honey: How could God have allowed the tsunami?

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Rev. Tom Honey: How could God have allowed the tsunami?

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http://www.ted.com - It's a classic problem in theology: How can the existence of evil be reconciled with a God who is supposed to be all-loving, all-knowing and all-powerful? Many Christian thinkers have attempted answers to this question. In the days following the thousands of personal tragedies recorded during the South Asian tsunami of 2004, Tom Honey pondered those answers and found them wanting. Instead, he penned his own, personal, and sometimes dramatic response to the tsunami. This is a courageous talk for a Church of England vicar to have given. It concludes that certain traditional concepts of God just won't do ... and calls for believers and nonbelievers alike to dig deeper in their quest for truth.

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In holland there is ... ( 4 months ago by nitwitters)

In holland there is a priest how is an atheist, but he believes in the rules.

funny how thinking ... ( 3 months ago by darrenmmurtha)

funny how thinking about God can so easily be confused with non-belief.

Actually, that is ... ( 3 months ago by darrenmmurtha)

Actually, that is how Einstein came up with many of his theories- with mental exercises to rationalize theories, instead of using the Scientific Method... He then proved them with experiments, but he came up with ideas through philosophical thought.

The scientific ... ( 2 months ago by beriukay)

The scientific method does not preclude thought. Even philosophical thought. I think there are many who would argue that he used the mental exercises to derive his theory, not simply to rationalize them.

Sorry about mixing ... ( 2 months ago by beriukay)

Sorry about mixing the singular and plural there... blame it on being sleepy.

what a weak ... ( 2 months ago by Antisyncretism)

what a weak presentation

Although I'm an ... ( 2 months ago by luqmana)

Although I'm an atheist, I've always found this question/argument rather weak. Regardless of how kind God would be, I don't think he'd intend for the world to be perfect. What would be the use for heaven?

I wonder: if he has ... ( 2 months ago by gerinca)

I wonder: if he has so many doubts why doesn't he just do the next logical step and become an atheist? The way he is trying to get out of his dilemma doesn't seem consistent to me at all.

Then what was the ... ( 2 months ago by noinlair)

Then what was the point of the Garden of Eden? If God was omnipotent surely he knew the outcome. So he just wanted to give the first two humans a little taste of paradise before he bitch-slapped the future of humanity for all time with original sin? Surely most people don't believe they had anything to do with grabbing the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge. God works in mysterious ways is the biggest cop-out there is.
I see where you're coming from though :|

I'm an atheist, but ... ( 2 months ago by zeggman)

I'm an atheist, but this guy's God is one I could consider. The all-good, all-powerful, all-knowing version is obviously inconsistent with the world as we find it, but the spirit of seeking and the forces which permeate the universe -- yeah, that wouldn't violate my sense of reality.
I'm sorry so many people were "bored" or so fixated on the traditional notion of God that they couldn't hear and consider what this man was saying, but I think it's worth pondering.

Is God willing to ... ( 2 months ago by arkham1999)

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God? - Epicurus

My respects... I am ... ( 1 month ago by jesslorenzo)

My respects... I am a catholic who is in love with God but your response shows me that I have yet to learn more about God. Thanks Zeggman. Your response is very humbling to me.

Hi Zeggman. My ... ( 1 month ago by jesslorenzo)

Hi Zeggman. My respects. I am a catholic who is in love with God but your response is very humbling to me. It shows me that I have a lot to learn about the God I love. Thanks.

How is this weak? ... ( 1 month ago by manyscents)

How is this weak? Provide me with some reasons, if possible. I thought this was a great and strong presentation.

Atheist means that ... ( 1 month ago by manyscents)

Atheist means that you are certain that there is no god. Please, know the definition before questioning his thoughts.

It was so very weak ... ( 1 month ago by Antisyncretism)

It was so very weak pathetically liberal often a precursor to syncretism. It was so relativist which also very much a precusor if not necessary to approaching syncretistic or automatically being syncretistic in thought.
It was so very weak and devoid of theology just philosophy and this context makes his points just dead

I don't know if it ... ( 1 month ago by manyscents)

I don't know if it is just me, but this presentation is really a good one. Probably, it is one of the best Tedtalks. I think I am no longer atheist after watching this video clip. It doesn't mean that I am a Christian either, but... Is there a religion where the God is powerless?

i'm suprised by ... ( 1 month ago by CDN919)

i'm suprised by the responses to this and that people are so suprised. It's Spinozan theology all over again to me. People keep saying that "i'm an atheist but I like this" or "this is a much more palatable God than I am used to." It's a shame that so may people can only find comfort in the beliefs of the excommunicated and not even know it. The irony here kills me.

Array ( 1 month ago by Insano1211)

hey superhog98....
Well said and God Bless

Thanks GypsyPianist ... ( 1 month ago by Insano1211)

Thanks GypsyPianist
God Bless

Well said ... ( 1 month ago by Insano1211)

Well said Stephenmrrs.
God Bless man.

Well said UnusVerum ... ( 1 month ago by Insano1211)

Well said UnusVerum
God Bless

"I don't know" is ... ( 3 weeks ago by MidgardEagle)

"I don't know" is the best answer I've yet received to the Problem of Evil. I wish more Christians were like Reverend Honey.

Brilliant though ... ( 1 week ago by AuthenticPunkDance)

Brilliant though the Reverend's ideology is (compared to naive Creationists), I can't help but feel the decline of God's role in religion is destined to end in a sort of pantheistic Church. I myself would support this, but I know that the idea of a religion without God would scare many people.

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