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The Crash of AA Flight 587 - An Engineering Disaster?



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http://www.usread.com/flight587.html
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FDR and CVR data analyzed:
http://www.usread.com/flight587/TimeLinev2/TimeLinev2.html
"In regards to the wake turbulence, as stated earlier (in comments above for time stamp at 15:39), no weather data has been released by the NTSB to justify the postulation that 587 encountered wake turbulence at 15:39. To believe 587 encountered wake turbulence now, at 15:59 (the start of the rudder movements) is akin to black magic and witchcraft. And this is no exaggeration or sensationalistic claim. Here's why:
1. Pilots from many transport categories have mentioned to me that the way the NTSB has proffered the wake turbulence scenario is inconsistent with real world turbulence and inconsistent with the events that unfolded in the cockpit during those 20 seconds. For example: Why was there a 2nd rattle at 15:54 five seconds before the alleged second wake encounter at 15:59? Why did the pilot call for the escape procedure 13 seconds after the first wake encounter and 7 seconds before the next?
2. If the winds at at 9:15:59 am (the time of the alleged 2nd wake encounter) at 2400 feet (587's altitude according to the NTSB) were from the same general heading as they were at 7 am (approximately 330 degrees) it would mean that the wake vortices' distance to 587 would be over 1 nautical mile away. This would require a consistent 40 knot wind from 330 degrees! We haven't seen any supporting data. We don't see the Emperor's new clothes.
3. If the weather data suggests wind coming from the west (270 degrees) then this wake encounter is still impossible given the fact that JAL47 was at 3800 feet at that point, 1400 feet above where the NTSB says 587 was (at 2400 feet). That would require the wake vortices to fall at a rate of 933 feet per minute AND travel laterally at 28 knots. Dr. Fred Proctor, a wake turbulence expert with NASA's Langley Research Center, states that wake vortices fall at 300 to 480 feet per minute before they begin to decay. If we are generous to the wake encounter theory, and grant that the vortices did not decay at all during the 90 seconds and fell at a maximum rate of 720 feet over 90 seconds (while maintaining an eastward romp of 28 knots), the vortices would still be 680 feet above 587. Of course, the vortices would probably be higher since the vortices did experience some decay during the 90 second fall that would have slowed their descent below the max rate of 480 feet per minute, perhaps much slower. The Emperor is
naked."


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Bush and Cheney ... ( 4 months ago by barefootboy1717)
Bush and Cheney knew this was going to happen and they let it happen so we can go to war with Iraq.
mann i dont want to ... ( 4 months ago by skateemerica134)
mann i dont want to fly with them anymore
A properly designed ... ( 3 months ago by ThamMalaysia)
A properly designed digital fly-by-wire system
have prevented the rudder from overextending
in the first place.
And a strong tailplane assembly securely
attached to the fuselage would not
have sheared off in the first place, even
if overstressed from overactuation of the
rudder.
Clear-cut software, mechanical and
structural design flaws. Airbus should
have had its pants sued out.
i am now TERRIFIED ... ( 3 months ago by CoDgLiTchEr)
i am now TERRIFIED to fly. =(
Turbulences are ... ( 2 months ago by FanFisique)
Turbulences are created by the AIR circulating through Engine´s FAN BLADES...US TARDS.
The Pilot aplying rudder imput in EXCESS...
I CAN´T FIND ANY NTSB Report were the PLANE´S STRUCTURE was to be BLAMED ARSEWHOLE...
THE ONLY CRAPPY PLANES THAT HAS HAD STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS TO DATE WAS AND IS THE BOEING 737, 500 PEOPLE KILLED ON 5 737 RUDDER RELATED CRASHES...
CHANGE THE TITLE IF THIS CRAPPY VID RETARD.
i assume that im ... ( 2 months ago by shitstinx)
i assume that im with you dude, i think the plane was sabotaged. didnt u check any of the links i've included in the info? they all point to sabotage as well, even if they do blame it on muslim terrorists (that part i disagree with).
as to the title, i put a question mark at the end to denote that it might NOT be an "engineering disaster".
so take a chillpill man and get an understanding of the full context before you go calling people retards.
the wake turbulence ... ( 2 months ago by francobobfred)
the wake turbulence they're refering to is generated from the wingtips of the aircraft, not the jetwash.
Array ( 2 months ago by FanFisique)
Another TARD.
Wingtips DO NOT CREATE Turulences, but just the OPPOSITE...
The only thing that causes turbulences in a commercial airplane enough to diturb any other flight is just the Jetwash...
Aerodynamics is based on the principle of eficiency...not making disturbing (high drag) wings that affects the continuous airflow...
Even engines are designed having this principle as basic during the design of the fan blades...the bigger ones the less blade´s speed and less turbulences...
What the hell are ... ( 2 months ago by francobobfred)
What the hell are you talking about? You're the "tard." Even birds create a vortex. Do they have engines? NO! And guess where they generate? From their wingtips!
Array ( 2 months ago by FanFisique)
LOL...yep.
Me tard you smart...LOL
Birds having Wingtips...Yep..LOL
So a plane takes off from an airport, and the most dangerous turbulence is the one that allegedly is created by wingttips...instead of Fanblades VORTEXES created by engines being pulled at its MAX THRUST...
US TARDS...
TAKE A LOOK INTO ... ( 2 months ago by FanFisique)
TAKE A LOOK INTO THIS VID OF MINE:
watch?v=-p9LU3EKGao
And NOTICE the real creator of VORTEXES...and its REAL POWER.
TARD
Array ( 2 months ago by FanFisique)
For the record:
Birds controls the turbulences of their wings due to the ending enge feaders...being the most efficient and natural way of controlling horizontal stability years ahead of any current airplane.
Judging from your ... ( 2 months ago by francobobfred)
Judging from your videos, you seem to be one of those "inside job" asswipes. HA! That demonstrates your intelligence, or lack therof. What other conspiracies do you believe in? UFOs and little green men? Oh my god, you're the retard.
Don't bother with all of your "fanblade vortex" bullshit. You've lost all credibility.
Array ( 2 months ago by FanFisique)
As it was SAID...
US Tards...
Because God had to deliver...some things wrong...LOL
I suggest you watch ... ( 2 months ago by francobobfred)
I suggest you watch this then, it will trump any of your "fanblade vortices" bullshit
watch?v=__pyxPb6gMc
Fanfisique: you ... ( 2 months ago by HoustonRocket101)
Fanfisique: you dont know what the fuck your talking about PLEASE SHUT UP
FanFisique is ... ( 2 months ago by allboeing)
FanFisique is right.heres a example a 747 goes up no turbilance but a 737 goes up with good lot of turbilance
actually turbulance ... ( 1 month ago by abbeyw01)
actually turbulance can be air pockets there the worst ones. I'm a f/a
The pentagon was a ... ( 2 weeks ago by rapecenter)
The pentagon was a plane. The twin towers was one plane and the rest was bombs that took the structure down itself notice how it goes down floor by floor thats not a plane thats BOMBS.
Lot of ... ( 2 weeks ago by Homg1234)
Lot of controversial comments on this air accident. Interesting to read most of them. ;o
There nothing that ... ( 1 week ago by sideslide23)
There nothing that any one on AA could have done, the terrist was over prepared for that mission, they had musterd gas, fake bomb, leathal sharp box cutter on that flight, people who tried to stop the terroist on that flight has been killed by the deadly musterd gas and even stab by one of the terrist. I saw that other part on the History Channel on how they did it and what they did on the way to new york
Typical arrogant ... ( 1 week ago by phillyslasher)
Typical arrogant response from Airbus: "Oh, our planes are perfect, we don't need to fix our rudder problems."
Planes rarely take ... ( 4 days ago by Patrickisreallygreat)
Planes rarely take off at full thrust, and they set climb thrust later in the climb.
Wingtips DO NOT ... ( 4 days ago by FanFisique)
Wingtips DO NOT CREATE Turbulences: FUCKTARD AMERICANS
The problem of turbulences in commercial aviation is related with the Jetwash Effect= The Air leaving engine´s fan blades at great speed, take a look:
watch?v=-p9LU3EKGao
That´s the real problem AA Flight 587 had to overcome: pilots failed
Aerodynamics is based on the principle of eficiency
Engines are designed having this basic principle in mind during the design of the fan blades...the bigger the less fanspeed and less turbulence



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